Show #694 June 19, 2026

Guest: Will Chavez from the Cherokee-Phoenix

This episode brings together a long and sorrowful history and a bicycle tour that commemorates it.

We are all familiar with rides that have meaning such as fund raisers for medical research, rides that create long-lasting memories and friendships such as RAGBRAI, and rides that bring back fond memories such as the upcoming re-creation of the Bikecentennial Ride in July, celebrating the founding of our Nation.

And then, there are rides that reaffirm some truths about who we are and what we stand for as a people while shedding light into how we might deal with the truths of our history and do better in the future.

Today’s conversation falls into the latter category and my guest is Will Chavez, the associate editor of the Cherokee-Phoenix, the official newspaper of the Cherokee Nation. 

The paper itself has a long and interesting history, beginning in what is now called New Echota, once the capital of the Cherokee Nation in Georgia and now a historic site.

In the 1830’s – 1838 to be exact – the removal of 100,000 Native Americans, including the Cherokee, Creek, Chickasaw, Choctaw, and Seminole – from their homelands in the Southeastern United States to Indian Territory – now Oklahoma – resulted in thousands of deaths from harsh conditions, starvation, and disease.

The route that was traveled by the tribes back in the 1800’s is now commemorated each year by 12 specially chosen young Cherokee riders as they travel the almost 1000 miles on the Trail of Tears.

Will offers us a look back at history and forward to what these riders take home from the historic journey they are privileged to take.

Will’s new book “Riding the Trail: Cherokees Remember the Removal,” is now available for pre-order and you can follow all of the news from the Cherokee Nation through the Cherokee-Phoenix newspaper.

Transcript_June 19

Cherokee Nation Remember the Removal cyclists begin their day’s journey June 8 from downtown Golconda, Illinois, next to the Ohio River. CHAD HUNTER/CHEROKEE PHOENIX
On June 8 along their three-week journey, Cherokee Nation Remember the Removal cyclists arrive at Camp Ground Cemetery near Anna, Illinois, where Cherokees camped during their forced removal known as the Trail of Tears. CHAD HUNTER/CHEROKEE PHOENIX
On June 8 along their three-week journey, Cherokee Nation Remember the Removal cyclists arrive at Camp Ground Cemetery near Anna, Illinois, where Cherokees camped during their forced removal known as the Trail of Tears. CHAD HUNTER/CHEROKEE PHOENIX
In the final stretch, this year’s Remember the Removal bike ride team makes its way down Water Avenue in Tahlequah on June 19. CHAD HUNTER/CHEROKEE PHOENIX
Surrounded by friends and family, Cherokee Nation citizen Ella Mounce, 22, of Stilwell, Oklahoma, celebrates her return from the annual Remember the Removal bike ride on June 19 in Tahlequah. CHAD HUNTER/CHEROKEE PHOENIX
Remember the Removal teammates Adrian Gaches and Savannah Slayton hug after their return to Tahlequah on June 19 following a three-week-long bicycle trek along the Trail of Tears with other cyclists. The annual Remember the Removal bike ride includes a team of Cherokees from both the Cherokee Nation and Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. CHAD HUNTER/CHEROKEE PHOENIX

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