Show #679 December 4, 2025

Guests: David Shellnut; Bill Nesper

Every time I think our issues with cars vs cyclists are getting so much worse, which of course they are, I come across something that is even more dreadful!

Seems that Canada – a place where I would have thought cyclists would be not only safer but encouraged – is definitely not that!

In my conversation with David Shellnutt, The Biking Lawyer, I learn that there is not only open hostility to cyclists, but the police seem to be complicit in making cyclists “pay” for infractions while drivers’ who have been issued tickets find themselves with no consequences whatsoever. 

Besides his busy law practice helping cyclists in a multitude of ways, David shows up to speak at club meetings, litigates anti-racism in the courts, sides with survivors of sexual violence and assault, and helps to feed the needy.

Our conversation runs the gamut from what The Biking Lawyer does to the legislation that is coming up in early 2026.

 You can find and follow him @ The Biking Lawyer on social media as well as read his blog on thebikinglawyer,ca.

And, he did indeed meet up with our Oshawa Bike Club Friends that Saturday.  

 

 

In the second half of the show, we feature the first of our holiday giving segments with Bill Nesper, executive director of the League of American Bicyclists. 

The LAB does some great things – from offering a multitude of helpful options to get involved on a local or national level to helping make our communities more bicycle friendly, which in turn makes them safer.  The LAB also hosts the National Bike Summit where, as a delegate of your community, you have the opportunity to make your case for legislation directly with the officials who can make those votes happen.

With the end of the year upon us, I like to highlight non-profits that benefit the cycling community or organizations with bicycle charity as a focus – be it local, national, or worldwide. 

Today is the first of those segments.  I’m highlighting the 145-year-old organization that originally lobbied for paved roads – only in those days, it wasn’t for cars but rather for bicycles.

Now in 2025, the League of American Bicyclists is still doing the hard work of keeping bicycles and bicyclists in the forefront of the transportation department and in 2026 the 5-year transportation bill will again be up for re-authorization.

A few years ago, I had the privilege of spending a few days in Washington with the LAB’s National Bike Summit.  From the many breakout sessions to the Day on the Hill, the Summit is a well-oiled machine and something that makes you feel as if your participation really does matter.

Go to BikeLeague.org to take action, sign up for the e-newsletter, check out the map of bicycle friendly communities, universities, and businesses, and so much more.  And if you are not a member, perhaps you’d like to join.  Or, maybe make a donation to help keep the League’s work going. It’s a worthy cause.

One other item before I sign off today.

The National Bicycle Dealer’s Association is looking for 2,000 cyclists to take a consumer survey.  It’s anonymous, fairly comprehensive, and is meant to help bike shops learn what you want and need from them .  Here is the link to the survey.

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Show #678 – November 20, 2025

Guest: Joe Lindsey

This episode was going to be an audio with commentary for my Substack.  But, as often happens when I speak with Joe Lindsey from the Escape Collective, the conversation becomes so interesting that I just couldn’t see NOT sharing it on all my platforms.

Another reason I wanted to share this with everyone is that Joe, is an expert on competitive bike racing, which I am not, and since the 2025 continental and world races are pretty much over, I figured it was time to review them.

We begin with a short discussion about this year’s World’s, which for the first time was held on the African continent.  Political for sure; but all seemed to go well.

Not so with the Vuelta A Espana as Joe and I move into a conversation about the Israel-Premier Tech team and how politics and protest, which have always been a part of bike racing, has now reached a level that is truly dangerous to the riders, the sponsors, and the sport itself.

Since Joe and I spoke, much has happened, both in the Middle East and with the team itself.  Premier-Tech pulled their sponsorship, saying that “the core reason to sponsor the team has been overshadowed to a point where it has become untenable.”

Sad to say the least, but I think you will hear some good reasoning in my conversation with Joe.

As we cover some of the women’s racing from this past season, we get into the topic of fueling and weight.  Ugh!

Weight is an especially tough topic for women – just look at the endless ads for weight loss and what defines beauty in all forms of advertising.

But there has been a seismic shift in thinking about fueling for bike racers and with that a shift away from just focusing on weight to the importance of nutrition.

Joe also talks about course design as it relates to the physique of a rider.  Certain courses do favor a light, sprite rider while others offer advantages to a different body type. 

And then there is course design as it relates to the safety of the riders.

We get into the weeds a bit with the UCI vs SRAM dispute about gearing as the discussion runs headlong into where the UCI should focus its work and what might happen if everyone rode the same bike – much like stock car racing.

So you see, it’s a solid discussion and I hope you enjoy it.

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Show #677 – November 11, 2025

Guests: Kevin Duggan; Sarah Davis

We read or hear about corruption from a lot of places and when I came across a story from Kevin Duggan from Streetsblog NYC about a prominent family in Brooklyn NY that bribed officials to kill a protected bike lane, I just couldn’t pass up the opportunity to find out more.

So, who are Gina and Tony Argento and why are they so hell bent on not wanting a bike lane in their neighborhood?

The Argentos are big-whigs in the Greenpoint District of Brooklyn, NY – many high-profile television shows are shot on their “Broadway Stages” properties. 

This past August, they were indicted for bribing the mayor’s assistant with not only money, but a cameo on an upcoming show episode. Ah, vanity!

According to the Grand Jury indictment handed down late August, the defendants, Ingrid Lewis-Martin, who was Mayor Adams. Right-hand gal, Gina Argento, Anthony “Tony” Argento, and Broadway Stages, Ltd. (“Broadway Stages”) are charged with the of the crime of CONSPIRACY IN THE FOURTH DEGREE, in violation of New York Penal Law § 105.10(1)…

 I know I shouldn’t gloat about things like this but seeing people who are so incredibly insulated from what goes on around them as well as having such hubris as to believe they are above the law, learn that there are consequences to their actions, gives me a teeny-tiny bit of hope.

Here’s a copy of the indictment  and read Eric’s coverage on the scandal. 


In my conversation with Sarah Davis, the Active Transportation Senior Planner for the City of Cleveland, we unpack the Cleveland Moves initiative supported by Mayor Justin Bibb

While Cleveland’s population was in decline for several decades, it recently seems to be trending upwards again. 

But one of the consequences of fewer people and cars is that perception that you can go faster on the roads.  But the greater speed has resulted in the horrific statistic of 75 traffic fatalities in 2024.  Bad stuff!

Cleveland Scene is the Cleveland’s voice of arts and culture, music, city living, and more and back at the beginning of October, Cleveland Scene published an article titled: “Cleveland Set for $4 Million Grant for 15 “Quick-Build” Bike Lanes Across City”

With such a big dollar amount plus bike lanes in the headline, I dove in to find out more.

The result, my conversation with Sarah Davis, active transportation senior planner for the City of Cleveland.

Here is a link to the Scene’s article on our website, outspokencyclist.com. 

And you can learn more about Cleveland Moves at https://www.clevelandohio.gov/transportation-mobility/cleveland-moves – mouthful! 

Okay – I need to correct my comment about how long I’ve been in Cleveland – math whiz that I am… it’s been over 60 years not 50. 

Next time on TOC, we’ll speak with Canadian Attorney, David Shellnutt .  Oh yeah, we think we have a lot of issues with cars and bikes… woo-hoo seems Toronto might be right up there with some of the worst for some reason. 

For extra commentary, head on over to my Substack.

And in fact, an extended conversation about the 2025 bike racing season with my friend Joe Lindsey from the Escape Collective, will be available exclusively on that platform on Tuesday, November 18th

You can subscribe to my Substack for free, although I’d be honored to have you support the work with a paid subscription… it’s not very expensive!

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Show #676 – October 16, 2025

Guests: Scott Tong; Tony Jordan

Scott Tong is one of my favorite NPR hosts. Most days, along with Robin Young and several other Here and Now folks, I listen to Scott on WKSU, our local NPR affiliate.

Over the past year or so, I’ve heard Scott talk about riding his bike, crashing his bike, and more recently, training for a long-distance cycling event.

So I reached out to him, and he was happy to talk about his riding experiences, the bike he rides – which is only one of my all-time favorite brands – and the event he was training for with his brother-in-law and his wife.

Scott Tong, was wondering whether he might be getting too old to ride his beautiful Serotta Road bike and I assured him he is not!

It is true that while training for a long-distance event a couple of years ago, he fell and broke his collar bone and this year, while training for the same event, his wife fell and broke HER collar bone.

Still, he’s really not that old and he likes to ride!  He got back on the horse and completed the Seagull Century in Maryland right after our conversation.

If I were to ask you if there is enough parking wherever you go, what would you say?  Probably – No.

But what if I told you there is actually too much parking in many places, and that parking in general is poorly managed by most cities?

That’s the starting point for my conversation with the president of the Parking Reform Network, Tony Jordan, an organization that educates the public about the impact of parking policy on climate change, equity, housing, and traffic.

From the bizarre parking codes for every conceivable building, business, and residence, to a need for rethinking the miles and miles of concrete that take up precious land and contribute to climate issues, Tony Jordan helps to answers my many questions, and helps to give us actionable ideas to make our parking, driving, and especially biking and walking concerns better.

For more information about the organization and ways to get involved in improving parking, transportation, and equitable options in your area, log on to parkingreform.org.

And for my extended conversation with Tony about how bicycling and parking reform are connected, log into my Substack entry.  It’s a little bonus track!

Follow us on Instagram, FB, LinkedIn, X, and YouTube.  Subscribe to the podcast on your favorite app so you never miss an episode.  And do check out my Substack for my thoughts and commentary.

Next time on TOC, join me for an extended conversation with Escape Collective’s Joe Lindsey as we wrap up the 2025 cycling season and talk about some of the controversial issues facing the pro tour.

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Show #675 – September 26, 2025

Guests: Steve Frothingham; Jeremy Siegel

This episode of the podcast offers up a short discussion with Bicycle Retailer’s Editor-in-Chief, Steve Frothingham, about U.S. Customs and the seizing of containers from Taiwan manufacturer Giant.

Earlier this week, in a surprise move, US Customs officials seized containers from Giant, the world’s largest bike mfg, over unspecified forced labor accusations.

In an effort to find out exactly what that meant, besides holding up shipments at the ports, I rang up Steve Frothingham, at BR&IN.

His explanation, which was as up to date as of a few hours before we talked, made quite a bit of what was happening clear, but also left me with a lot of questions that I’m hoping will get answered in the next day or so. 

We also talk about tariffs – which unfortunately is becoming a daily topic. 

Here are links to Steve’s articles on the upheld shipments. 

Then I have a very interesting conversation with PRX’s “The World” global Transportation Correspondent, Jeremy Siegel about how Helsinki made it to the top of the Vision Zero with NO traffic deaths for over a year!

I listen The World on WKSU, our local NPR affiliate.  It’s an hour a day and there are always terrific stories from – well, around the world. 

A couple of weeks ago, I was in the car and heard Jeremy Siegel, “The World’s” Global Transportation Correspondent say that Helsinki had reported ZERO traffic deaths for over a year. 

Being a Vision Zero hopeful for the Cleveland area and never having heard of any major city, let alone a country’s capital, say that no automobile, cycling, or pedestrian fatalities had occurred seemed amazing.

I came home, re-listened to the piece on their website, and then contacted Jeremy.

Here is how they did it…

You can hear Jeremy on The World on your local NPR affiliate or log on to the world.org or find him @theworldnewswgbh on YouTube..

I hope you enjoyed the show today.

I will be uploading a new Substack piece to offer up some of my thoughts on both Steve and Jeremy’s conversations. Please consider subscribing to my Substack and help support my work.

Thank you for listening.  Until next time, please stay safe, stay well, and remember, there is always time for a ride.  Bye bye.

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Show #674 September 16, 2025

Guest: Shannon Binns

Shannon Binns didn’t make a plan to come to Charlotte, NC and stay; yet here he is more than 15 years after starting his not-for-profit organization “Sustain Charlotte.”

Shannon started out in engineering, did some overseas volunteering, and finally decided that environmental science and public policy were where his interests really lay, leading him to a master’s degree around the age of 30.

Landing in Charlotte, which was growing at breakneck speed – but without a lot of planning – he discovered he absolutely had to buy a car to get anywhere when he moved into a suburban neighborhood without a bus route, sidewalks, or heaven forbid, a bike lane.

Shannon also realized that unlike almost all other major cities in the U.S., and what made Charlotte so unique, was that it has no lakes, rivers, or an ocean front

What it does have is trees – and lots of them.  Charlotte is situated in the middle of a forest.

Then he saw the 25-year study that showed a full 50% of the tree canopy had been lost to development, and that, coupled with the lack of infrastructure for anything besides automobiles made him realize that he wanted – needed – to help.

If you are interested in learning more about the organization, log on to sustaincharlotte.org.  And, how about a scavenger hunt with other cyclists in October?  You can help Sustain Charlotte to meet its $90K goal and take a spin around the city with Biketoberfest.

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Show #673 – August 30, 2025

Guests: Eloise Mavian; Scott Reigle

It’s kind of a special episode for TOC because on September 4th, I will celebrate 15 years of TOC podcasting.

From my very first guest, frame builder Ben Serotta, until today, when my guests are far afield from frame building, I’ve had the privilege and honor or speaking with so many interesting, smart, talented, and accomplished people.

And so much has changed in the podcast space over the years.  This show started out as not only a podcast, but also a 1-hour radio broadcast.  Now we use the Zoom platform to record my conversations as well as see my interviewee – all in a simple and easy to run format.

I think it’s made a positive impact on the work, and I thoroughly enjoy the visual as well as the audio. I’ve learned audio editing and mixing and am actually thinking about video editing as a wintertime project.

But mostly, I’m looking forward to the next year of great conversations and hope you’ll come along for the ride.

My first guest is a photographer – but not just any photographer.  She’s a cycling photographer who follows mostly women’s racing, often on the back of a motorcycle.

There just a few women who cover racing with their cameras, but Eloise Mavian is one of those elites who do.  Her photograph of Demi Vollering, which  appeared on the cover of the new magazine Fausto, is how I learned of her and her remarkable story.

Eloise Mavian grew up in the photography business.  Her father had a photo shop in San Marco Square in Venice, Italy and it was at his hand that she learned the ins and outs of the photography world.

She went to the University of Visual Arts to study photography and even enrolled in a videography discipline; but her first love is the camera and still photos.  Then there is  her daring willingness to sit on the back of a fast-moving motorcycle – rain, sleet, or sun – which makes her not only a great photographer, but a wicked bad ass!

Her company, tornanti.cc, offers up a glimpse into many of the races she has covered as well as an opportunity to purchase prints that you just can’t live without!  To check out the metal prints we spoke about, click on any photo.  You can follow her on Instagram @eloisemavian or log on to tornanti.cc.

In the second half of the show, I speak with Scott Reigle.  He’s the Senior Transportation Planner for the Binghamton Metropolitan Transportation Study in Binghamton, NY.

Our family has a personal connection to Binghamton and when I was sent an article about a cool event that takes place there each year, I thought I would learn more about biking and walking in this Upstate University town.

Scott Reigle has been the Senior Transportation Planner in Broome County where Binghamton, NY is located for over 30 years. When it comes to transportation – by any means – he knows the area inside and out. 

He was around when the federal government ushered in the1991 Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act, – often referred to as IsTEA – which finally offered a major change to the way transportation planning and policy was approached, including giving metropolitan planning organizations significant powers.  Case in point giving the BMTS, the ability to implement a newly developed pedestrian and bicycle plan for the greater Binghamton area.

I think our conversation might pique your interest in taking a ride if you’re in the area.  For more information about BMTS, you can log on to bmtsonline.com.  Click for more information about the Bridge Pedal

Follow us on Instagram, FaceBook, Linkedin, YouTube, and yes, even X.  And check out my Substack for further commentary on this and other shows and topics.

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Show #672 – August 11, 2025

Guests: Brad Roe & Tim Schamber; Kevin Schoenmakers

I’m a huge believer in print – magazines, newspapers, books.  I prefer to turn pages and read from them, so when a client of ours mentioned this new magazine FAUSTO, I jumped right on it.

The editor graciously sent me Issues #1 & #2 and I was hooked, promptly subscribing to future issues.

Brad Roe and Tim Schamber have a long history with print magazines going WAY back to some early cycling publications, including Peloton, which was acquired Outside – another whole topic of conversation by the way.

So they took a beat and began ruminating on the what’s next.  And FAUSTO was born.  

I know how it is – when you’re a writer, you write.  When you’re an actor, you act. And when you are into editing and creating magazines, that’s what you do.

From its format – 7X9– to the cover finish – definitely NOT glossy – it’s a beautiful publication. And, with their extensive backgrounds in the business of magazines, they are bringing it all to bear in content that is well-written, interesting, and varied.

You can subscribe to FAUSTO at faustomagazine.com.  In fact, Brad and Tim have made you can offer you can’t refuse… a link to save 10% on an annual subscription.   Sign up for their newsletter at faustomagazine.com too.

Sometimes, the most difficult part of a conversation is getting the correct pronunciation of someone’s name.  Such is the case with my second guest… ready?  Kevin Schoenmakers.  Took me a couple of tries, but I think I got it.

In his article for Bloomberg City Lab titled “The Dutch Intersection is Coming to Save Your Life,” Kevin and I talk about important safety options that could be adopted by pretty much any community to help slow down traffic, make cyclists more visible, and prevent some of the more common auto-bike problems.

As someone who moved to the U.S. after living in China and who grew up in the Netherlands, it was not surprising that Kevin Schoenmakers found himself uncomfortable riding a bicycle in NYC.

He also found that the roads weren’t in great shape, drivers were less than friendly, and that there were few places, if any, to stash his bike while in a shop, restaurant, or even at home.

All of those things bring the issues many of us face about commuting by bike into sharp focus.

It was really refreshing to hear his perspective on riding a bicycle in NYC and to learn about other ideas for changing the roads with solutions I’d never heard about in the past – such as the turbo roundabout and the woonerfs or “shared streets” option.

You can follow Kevin on BlueSky @KevinSchoenmakers 

Follow us on Instagram, YouTube, FaceBook and on my Substack, where there is further commentary on the podcast as well as other topics of interest.

I hope you have a great day.  Until next time, please stay safe, stay well, and remember, there is always time for a ride.  Bye bye.

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Show #671 – July 16, 2025

Guests: Ed Blazina; John Surico

This episode of the podcast covers good news for cyclists in PA and a look at what’s happening in NYC – from the mayoral election to Central Park.

Post-Gazette writer Ed Blazina on Friday, Jan. 10, 2025. (Steve Mellon/Pittsburgh Union Progress)

Ed Blazina has been a transportation writer in Pittsburgh for over 20 years and is or was employed by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.  I say is/was for a particular reason; he and his fellow journalists have been on strike for 2 ½ years! 

But that’s apart from the original reason I contacted him.  Apparently, bicyclists in Pennsylvania were NOT entitled to be on the road with other vehicles – until the state supreme court handed down a decision that said they were.

In July of 2021, Brendan Lindon was jra on a road in the Pittsburgh area when he was stopped and given a citation for impeding traffic.  Mr. Lindon decided not to back down and the case was off and running. 

Ed’s  story State Supreme Court affirms bicyclists’ rights to use roads with other vehicles – caught my attention

And that is the story we are going to talk about today.

In the second half of the show, I welcome back one of my favorite guests, NYC’s Professor John Surico.  Every month, I receive his informative newsletter, Streetbeat, and every month I have an extensive list of questions that come out of it.

But, since we don’t talk every month, I compile my thoughts and fire off the most relevant ones for our on-air conversations.

Today, we chat about NYC’s mayoral election, the presumptive and somewhat controversial Democratic nominee, Zorhan Mamdani, and the candidate’s thoughts on NYC transportation issues.  We also cover congestion pricing, the changes coming to Central Park, and more. As always, it’s enlightening!

As goes NYC so go many of the ideas for how cities might resolve some of their transportation, safety, and neighborhood issues. 

I want to add a bit of commentary about the Adventure Cycling Association and the ongoing saga of the board of directors’ unilateral decision to put the iconic headquarters building in Missoula up for sale.

I believe there may be a lot of reasons NOT to sell the building, chief among them that it won’t resolve the issues facing the organization going forward and may instead just sink it.

IMHO, there needs to be more transparency by the board and deeper explanations of what has been happening that has depleted the coffers and led to the decision to let go of most of the staff.

Yes, there are big changes in the demographic of the cyclist who rides his/her bike for adventure and travel.  If the board can’t figure out how to adapt to these changes and make better decisions about programs and products for that rider, they need to step aside and bring in new blood.

There is a petition, a commentary piece on my Substack, and a lot of information on FaceBook.  I’ll step off my soapbox now.

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Show #670 – June 2, 2025

Guests: Mark Van Tongeren; Professor Jim Martin

Today, my guests are Mark Van Tongeren from Michigan Adventure Racing and Professor Jim Martin from the Nutrition and Integrative Physiology and Neuromuscular Function Lab at the University of Utah.

I’m not sure how I didn’t know about Michigan Adventure Racing.  The organization seems so together, and Mark Van Tongeren, the founder and producer of these events seems to be the best kind of ride director.

If you are into well organized events that offer up some challenging riding, Michigan Adventure Racing might just have what you’re looking for this summer.

From his website tag line, “Adventurous races for those who like to go wild,” to the clever event names, Hurt the Dirt, Lord of the Springs, Coast to Coast Gravel Grinder, there is truly something for everyone at every level.

I was introduced to my second guest, Dr. Jim Martin by bike fitter extraordinaire Paul Swift.  In my conversation with him back in February, he mentioned the work that Jim is doing and the fact that Jim will be the keynote speaker at a professional fit symposium at the Tour de France next month.  I thought I’d nab him first.

World Champion Tadej Pogacar uses relatively short cranks.  And that has re-ignited the conversation about crank arm length among a lot of folks – especially bike fitters.

So… going to the horse’s mouth – so to speak – and finding out that a change in crank arm length might be easily discerned by the rider, does not necessarily result in more power output.

Professor Jim Martin has the proof-positive that this is so, and he’s going to explain it and a lot more.  Buckle up y’all… it’s a bit techy, and quite fascinating.

You can find out more about Professor Martin’s work at the University of Utah.  And here are links to several of the studies we spoke about on the show.

Reprint Determinants of Metabolic Cost JAP
Reprint Determinants of Maximal Cycling Power
Crank Length and Submaximal Biomechanics

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