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Guests: Tom & Deb Gardner; Jenn Dice
Yes, it’s been a minute – well, maybe a bit longer – since the last episode, but I’m back and today’s show is the first in our year-end series highlighting gift-giving opportunities.
That’s not all though. My first guests are husband and wife Deb and Tom Gardner. They live in Indianapolis and have such a great story to tell.
Both are now retired and the accomplishments they have under their belts are mind blowing. Before they became heavily involved with long-distance cycling, they decided to run a marathon in every state. Done. Then it was on to some pretty spectacular bicycling.
I’ve always wondered what drives some people to aim for and achieve such amazing objectives such as running a marathon in every state or riding across country. In the case of Tom and Deb Gardner, I think it’s just the way some people are wired – but what is so cool about this couple is that they seem to be
wired exactly the same!
My thanks to Tom & Deb Gardner for allowing ME to be the first to broadcast their newest adventure! Their blog site, “Keep Calm and Pedal On,” is full of great information as well as some preliminary details of their upcoming New Zealand trip.
After a break, we catch up with the president and CEO of People for Bikes, Jenn Dice. People tell me I’m “so enthusiastic!” But, next to Jenn, I feel pretty laid back!
And, her enthusiasm for the work she does is contagious! Running PFB, which is celebrating its 25th anniversary – thank you very much – is a big deal and from the city ratings program to eBike battery recycling, Jenn can recite chapter and verse on all the many spokes in the PFB hub.
Jenn is a bicycling powerhouse.. She was named “one of the 50 most influential people in American cycling” in 2023 by Escape Collective .
She is a tireless advocate for cycling at the grass roots level, moving a vast
array of cycling projects from start to successful finish.
You can find all of the projects Jenn and I talked about plus a lot more at peopleforbikes.org. Join the organization, learn about the many great programs and opportunities available, and find out how your city rates as a great place to ride – or learn how to effect change in your city using PFB’s advice. And, you definitely want to recycle your eBike batteries!
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Next time, we’ll be speaking with World Bicycle Relief’s Leah Misbach Day. It’s time we caught up with her and learn about the organization’s most recent programs and progress.
We’ll also be speaking with BikeFit expert Paul Swift. I think we’ll have a lot to talk about!


the organization, beginning with member ship and working on the
With the fall riding season in full swing, we’re bringing you our last great riding trail review for 2024. And, I’ve saved a review of the Southern New England area, especially
especially in 2024, the effects of the infrastructure act have pushed quite a few projects along helping to add many segments in the quest complete the 3,000+ mile project.
This episode of our show was intended to highlight another great riding trail along with a conversation with renowned traffic engineer and planner Professor Wes Marshall at the University of Colorado in Denver.
options, and a broad observation of what we are getting wrong about the way we not only DO transportation and safety, but how we think about it in the first place.
Before we get to the trail though, my first guest today is . Back in 2011, I spoke with Laura about her then 3-month art project,
second link to the 
photo of the
Founded in 1983, the European Cyclists’ Federation is a Brussels-based independent non-profit association dedicated to achieving more and better cycling for all in Europe.
Federation, left the corporate world to pursue a career committed to expanding cycling for everyone everywhere. She’s lived in Europe for 35 years and, although she does have a car, rarely drives it, depending instead upon one of the stable of bikes for transport.
One of my past guests, Scott Kasper, contacted me and wanted to share his experience of the
Chris is the Empire State Trail Program Manager, living a short distance from one of the trailheads as well as having traversed many a mile on the trail himself.
from Buffalo to Albany; and South from Albany into downtown Manhattan, the Empire State Trail offers some of the most diverse riding opportunities on the east coast. You can access the
And who best to fill us in on all of this?
individual stages of a race that both started and ended differently than in the past and, I always learn so much about bike racing when we talk.
A couple of years ago, Jim Sayer, who was with the
his time on the trail on our website, outspokencyclist.com as well a link to the Mickelson Trail website.
My first guest is not new to the show either.
comment. Back in February, Leah was to have given one of her amazing motivational keynote talks to the
Tom Bilcze is the president of the 
In the second part of the show, I welcome Sela Musa, a reporter for 
On my last show, I spoke with London cycling advocate and the truly delightful Carla Francome. Not a moment after we ended our conversation, Carla sent me a note asking if SHE could interview ME.
I’m not sure how I ended up with two guests who exhibit almost identical traits – they’re gutsy, funny, and passionate about everything they do.
crashes – in fact, any challenge that would seem daunting to me is a “let’s have it” from him.
I have NO doubt that he will complete RAAM and wish him and his Captain, Jim Trout a speedy sub-11 day ride! You can follow them on the RAAM site, RAAMrace.org once the race is underway or at