Podcast: Play in new window | Download
Subscribe: RSS
Guests: Tom & Deb Gardner; Jenn Dice
Yes, it’s been a minute – well, maybe a bit longer – since the last episode, but I’m back and today’s show is the first in our year-end series highlighting gift-giving opportunities.
That’s not all though. My first guests are husband and wife Deb and Tom Gardner. They live in Indianapolis and have such a great story to tell.
Both are now retired and the accomplishments they have under their belts are mind blowing. Before they became heavily involved with long-distance cycling, they decided to run a marathon in every state. Done. Then it was on to some pretty spectacular bicycling.
I’ve always wondered what drives some people to aim for and achieve such amazing objectives such as running a marathon in every state or riding across country. In the case of Tom and Deb Gardner, I think it’s just the way some people are wired – but what is so cool about this couple is that they seem to be
wired exactly the same!
My thanks to Tom & Deb Gardner for allowing ME to be the first to broadcast their newest adventure! Their blog site, “Keep Calm and Pedal On,” is full of great information as well as some preliminary details of their upcoming New Zealand trip.
After a break, we catch up with the president and CEO of People for Bikes, Jenn Dice. People tell me I’m “so enthusiastic!” But, next to Jenn, I feel pretty laid back!
And, her enthusiasm for the work she does is contagious! Running PFB, which is celebrating its 25th anniversary – thank you very much – is a big deal and from the city ratings program to eBike battery recycling, Jenn can recite chapter and verse on all the many spokes in the PFB hub.
Jenn is a bicycling powerhouse.. She was named “one of the 50 most influential people in American cycling” in 2023 by Escape Collective .
She is a tireless advocate for cycling at the grass roots level, moving a vast
array of cycling projects from start to successful finish.
You can find all of the projects Jenn and I talked about plus a lot more at peopleforbikes.org. Join the organization, learn about the many great programs and opportunities available, and find out how your city rates as a great place to ride – or learn how to effect change in your city using PFB’s advice. And, you definitely want to recycle your eBike batteries!
Follow us on FB, Instagram, YouTube, and Twitter (X)
Next time, we’ll be speaking with World Bicycle Relief’s Leah Misbach Day. It’s time we caught up with her and learn about the organization’s most recent programs and progress.
We’ll also be speaking with BikeFit expert Paul Swift. I think we’ll have a lot to talk about!

Which takes me to our first guests – 
In the second half of the show, we learn about City Thread – a new non-profit start-up that has been leading the charge in getting trails done – FAST.
But, what if you could harness the powers that be – local, state, federal – and especially every-day folks like you and me, and get our dream networks finished and paid for – quickly and efficiently?
and in a relatively short time they’ve taken their combined 50 years of experience in urban planning, marketing, communications, equitable public participation, fundraising, grant making, community engagement, strategic planning, and campaign management to bring hundreds of miles of trails to fruition.
And, as a side note, if you like following cross-country riders – you know – voyeuristically speaking – you can follow our friend Mike Ball. His photos are breathtaking and his blog is excellent. You can find it at
This week we speak with Noa Bayanan. Noa is the Director of Federal Policy for 
We begin today with
Then, we check in with one of my favorite industry people –
more
In his previous life, Tom worked in marketing for an ad agency creating content for some car manufacturers. He was also commuting to and from work by bike.
frustration and resignation about the lack of a cohesive way of getting biking and walking across to the people who need to hear it – not those of us who already do.
Their motto is “public land for public good”… and today, we speak with the NY State Director for the
access to nature and the outdoors, close to home, in the cities and communities where they live, as a matter of health, equity, and justice.
Kyle Wagenschutz, the VP of Local Innovation for
PS –
Sometimes you meet someone – even just in a phone call – and the enthusiasm and excitement for the work she is doing just jumps right out through the phone.
want to get yourself TO Chicago sometime during the month of October, People for Bikes along with the Chicago Race Riot 19.org project, SRAM, The Newberry Library, and a slew of other great sponsors, all come together to ride a historic route and raise funds to benefit the Blackstone Bicycle Works.
And, lastly, we speak with Lauren Hefferon owner and founder of Ciclismo Classico. The company, long known for exquisite European Bicycle Tours, has brought it home for two fall tours out of Keene, NH.
Fortunately, she is expected to make a full recovery. Her coach, Kristen Armstrong. was quoted as saying, “Chloe Dygert’s crash is devastating but she will come back stronger.”



